tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-60686167097412018672024-03-14T01:23:02.793+08:00The Fall of ScientologyAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.comBlogger574125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-89879526619111159542014-07-04T08:18:00.000+08:002014-07-04T08:18:04.977+08:00Predicting cult destiny using the MLM model<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
Cult watch day 3000, RIP Shawn Lonsdale.<br />
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There are plenty of linear list comparing the common characteristics of cults and MLM. I would think there are internal structural similarities that make them appear so similar on the outside. Though I don't know enough about Scientology nor MLM.<br />
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The concept of MLM is pure and simple but Scientology not so much. I would love to have discovered that SCN is just a pyramid so we can use the history of MLM to predict it's destiny. But I think the SCN symbols said it all - that it is multiple pyramids all about money (the double triangle and the $).<br />
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Certainly Hubbard would have incorporated the MLM schemes started in the 30's to 50's. His Dianetics is basically a spiritual copy of Nutrilite, probably the first popular MLM product line. Just as Avon realized it needs MLM to survive in 2005, Hubbard would make up MLM structures as he went along.<br />
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SCN is therefore not a simple pyramid (but perhaps it actually is), but you can clearly identify smaller pyramids. Auditing is a MLM scheme. To be a higher level auditor you have to pay for the training. So every public who buy the product (auditing) also pays higher ups on the auditing pyramid.<br />
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Narconon is a pyramid scheme. Customers are recruited into staff and everything is based on commission.<br />
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It's harder to compare public scientologists with MLM associates. Scnists are in, they pay but they don't sell. Perhaps you can look at the product as an improved-self. A public paid for the product and sold it to others, by being better employees or entrepreneurs. They do recruit others into Scn and the return for them may be an improved company, workspace, or colleague, that has monetary value to them.<br />
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Diskkeeper and Tom Cruise are big recruiters.<br />
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It is very interesting if we can predict the destiny Scn with the MLM model.<br />
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The Internet itself isn't going to kill off MLM despite the amount of negative experiences of MLM is all over the web. There are always enough gullible people who join for the instant dream starting package, reading the web or not. Especially if the recruiter is your aunt who is doing well. It's also hard for people to leave even if they have no money left and have the same bad experience matching what the web says. They invested so much and have no alternative dream. They may be like the majority of MLM recruits, lying idle when money runs out.<br />
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Regulation isn't going to kill off MLM easily. The FTC lost to AmWay and started the 20 billion industry. The FTC crashed Herbalife in 2012 and then 2014. Other MLM companies stock prices follows. Even with criminal investigations it's probably not enough to wipe out HLF.<br />
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You are not fighting one MLM, but the whole 20 billion industry and it's lobby. It's even harder for cults because even major religions sometimes think like cults, as seen in the forced abortion case.<br />
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How will it end? I would like to know too.<br />
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The Independents are hopeless. There's no MLM breakaway executives who can take over the mother company with the SAME product and story. You got to have a "better" product, be a successful company and then swallow the mother company.<br />
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When recruitment dry up, the pyramid will collapse on it's own weight. Sure they will run out of gullible people but there will be new markets. Fortunately no way China will open up to another new cult and Scn is doing poorly if at all in South America like Brazil. These are now new big markets for MLM.<br />
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Scn is dead once they stop producing auditors in enough numbers. This has already happened. May be COB is clever enough to move away from MLM with something like direct cannibalism to preserve the core and self.<br />
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Top level associates left. This is a great bat signal that the boat is sinking. They are not making money. This has happened but in Scn their importance and rank can be covered up, becoming just another bitter apostate. It have to be well known names like the actor in the Orientation film, or Tom Cruise.<br />
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Product recall and lawsuits. This had happened, the big brainwash lawsuit but not enough to bankruptcy them. Narconon is another possibility. It is the perfect bad product. If they spend 100 million on lawyers and settlement each lawsuit, they will be bankrupted very soon. 10 mil will do the trick if enough people come forward. </div>
Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-52423893535370226842013-02-19T10:53:00.002+08:002013-02-19T13:02:15.364+08:00How the Org squeezed money out of Steve Wu, the richest Scientologist in Taiwan<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
Meet the IAS bank account team crush responsible for Taiwan.<br />
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Jerry Chen is the OT responsible for the IAS donation for all of Taiwan. He is from Taiwan, a US citizen, and reports to the mother Org.<br />
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In the picture he is holding the IAS donation target chart, with a quota of US$200,000 written on top.<br />
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He was high profile on Facebook but disappeared. His wife, Jill Chen, was the first woman OT8 from China. She is still on Facebook, but endorsed Connor Chen, who is a dropout from Delphi School since last year. He is now in a California public school.<br />
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The Org staff responsible for Taiwan is Erick Hilgers, then the
Deputy Manager for the Hotels, the Church of Scientology. He is seen
with Jerry Chen on the same IAS quota meeting, together with other team crush helpers.<br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Jerry Chen and Erick Hilgers</td></tr>
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Erick Hilgers told the following story in Taipei, 2011<i>:</i><br />
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"When I was at Flag, I found out what happened to the wife of <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CapitalSteveWu">Steve Wu</a> regarding their relationship. While his wife was at Flag (Clearwater, Florida) on OT VII course, they found out that she was having an affair. In other words she was having another man in her life. This is a big aberration because based on the Org's ethics, you can’t have this happening on the highest level of Scientology. </blockquote>
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Of course his husband Steve didn’t know this at the time. When Steve Wu went to the Freewinds, they told him about the affair. He was put under pressure to make a big donation to the Org, which would handle the situation for him. </blockquote>
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So he did just that. He paid around US $100,000 or may be more to the International Association of Scientology. But what Steve Wu didn’t know is that everything was well planned to put presure on him, and to make him PAY THAT MONEY. This was a big flap (the Scientology term for a problem) inside the Org and that all senior executives know that problem."</blockquote>
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All the big Registrars at the Org knew about Steve Wu's problems. <br />
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Then the same story happened at Los Angeles, at the Celebrity Center. Simone Hsu, mission holder of Taipei Centre, was told the story about Steve Wu and his wife. Simone’s response was “I knew something was wrong with Steve Wu”. <br />
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So Steve, not only the Org knew about your problem, but it is also well known to all your close friends and associates.<br />
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What the Org can really handle in this case is to order Steve Wu's wife not to file a divorce, or she will be expelled from the Org and lose her chance for eternal life. They can order the other man to leave her alone if he is also a Scientologists. Or, they can break them up using secrets from their auditing folders. The Wu couple may be residents in California or Florida, or have significant assets there. Both are no-fault states, meaning that the wife will get half of Steve's fortune WHENEVER she chooses to. If this is what Steve wants to avoid and to handle, $100,000 is a cheap price.<br />
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The original reporter's story is fully acknowledged and linked. I do not name him because we are not associates. If you want legal actions, it have to be done at least twice. It is my own legal responsibility to publish the story as fact, beyond reasonable doubt, for the sake of public safety.<br />
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Attempts were made to contact Steve Wu, his wife, and Karin Pouw, spokesperson of the Church of Scientology International, for comment. No response was received after at least 3 Internet days.<br />
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-25791933038251850182013-01-06T09:02:00.001+08:002013-01-06T13:26:22.590+08:00Scientology Extrapolation 2013<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
It's way too late and too busy to do a 2012 review, so it's extrapolation time instead. No apologies as Thursday 2pm is not our thing.<br />
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Exodus out of the church of Scientology is evident if you believe that the church once has 10 million "members". Now it has an estimate of 25,000 members in US, mostly in LA and Clearwater. The new census in UK shows that there are only 2,400 Scientologists. That explains the large numbers of familiar American faces appearing in Saint Hill annual events, and coach loads of attendees from other parts of Europe. Now they bring everybody from all over Taiwan by coaches to Taipei to attend events. Miscavige's one year old Facebook page has only 800 fans before the last minute stat push at the end of the year to 3000.<br />
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Now leaving the Sea Org is reported to be easy. Even in Int Base, you just need to say you are pregnant and the medical officer won't even challenge you. If you know any dirty secrets you may even have useful severance money and accommodation arrangements. <br />
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A reliable estimate of Scientologists in Taiwan is 1300. There is a very public rebellion since the Debbie Cook incident played out on Facebook. Our only celebrity went back inline with the church, while others became vocal critics.<br />
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The Superpower building, in the works for about 15 years, is still not open due to insufficient Sea Org staff. This is an excuse not to let it open. Once it's open, Scientologists will see that it will be as empty as in all the other Ideal Orgs.<br />
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The first Asian Ideal Org in Taiwan is still not opened for the same reason. Not enough Sea Org members are recruited.<br />
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The extrapolation for 2013 is - decimation.<br />
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Victims or critics return to haunt CoS in a big way and in numbers. The difference now is that they have Marty Rathbun to "consult" or dispose. "Did you kill my dog?", one old time journalist asked. Marty also has to reveal in court that the church spent over 30 million dollars to cover up the Lisa McPherson case, including favors to lawyers and judges. Sweeney already started the new year with an article selling his book critical of Scientology. Several books are due just in January. These aren't just self publish books, but some written by best selling professional writers on behalf of victims.<br />
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Scientology lawyers can't deal with the number of lawsuits even if they are not in the RPF and even if they are half capable. Just for Narconon there are at least 5 major cases, each of which can shut them down even if the state authorities aren't investigating (they are). Outside lawyers are hired who aren't going to play dirty and shield the church from responsible for illegal activities.<br />
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Let's not forget one French police turned PhD who wrote a thesis of how to prosecute the church of Scientology. Having read the thesis by the French prosecution team is one defense that the church used and failed. The Belgium prosecution also has their hands on the thesis long ago. I predict that they had enough after they raid the church in 2008, and declared in EU once again that the church is a criminal organization.<br />
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The local and state governments were afraid of Scientology because they have the finance to sue the government until their legal budget ran out, without wining the lawsuit. But this can only happen in US. It's not going to happen in Europe and Asia.<br />
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The extrapolation for 2013 is that even Taiwanese victims are coming out asking for justice, and I know for sure. I can't think of any lawsuit Scientology has a chance to claim victory. It looked like they worked out a formula in 2012 to pay anybody who sued them. It's like being forced to exchange pieces near the end game. At the end they are left defenseless.<br />
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Desperation is in the air for the church. They started a Dianetics campaign yet again. This time the print run is 10,000 and they first pile it up as a pyramid to enter the Guinness book of world records. They even hired a leggy B/C list model/starlet to be the witness on TV. My prediction is that they will have about 9,900 unsold Dianetics this time and the starlet will kiss goodbye her career in mainland China - she got scorned immediately after she posted her pictures of the event.<br />
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How many Scientologists does it take to sell Narconon on the streets? A whole platoon of Sea Org members. They are kicked out of schools, they are kicked out of voluntary organizations. They have to deploy a platoon of Sea Org members and conscripted a lot of scientologists including women and children, to get enough head for a picture that they can publish in a press release. They even published most of their names to thank them for their efforts. At other times, they may just release a picture with two anti-drug campaigners and a passerby.<br />
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In the small county where Narconon Taiwan is, the District Attorney's office is well infiltrated or controlled by Scientologists. They use the DA office to assign Criminon counselors to get into schools. This is so desperate and I think they self destructed. Narconon was kicked out of schools there years ago and the new mayor had assigned a police officer as the liaison with us for reporting possible criminal activities within Narconon.<br />
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You can hear Scientologists sobbing "nobody will criticize human right activities". They borrowed another cult's play book that failed as well. When all else failed, they sent their 19 year old Delphi graduate to lecture about human rights. I think she got away with it because she is pretty, appeared in TV commercials briefly and doesn't speak Mandarin. The other is not even a Scientologists, but a professional US motivational speaker who is also a famous virgin in his 30's. This time some university students aren't attending even being bribed with course credits. They did use the Taiwan federation of medical students to generate some PR, but I doubt very much if the church haven't alienated all of the medical students afterwards. The events preceded with an edit war in Wikipedia, concerning whether the Taiwan Youth for Human Rights is connected to the church. After the events, some of my videos have more hits in a month than the previous quarter. <br />
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My extrapolation is that their desperation will turn into self-destruction. <br />
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I fail to extrapolate on one thing. Now the FBI are involved, Homeland Security are involved, the Australian Federal Police are involved. I can't think of any more.<br />
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Finally my advice to staff and Sea Org members. Don't wait until it's too late to abandon ship. Marty is between a rock and a hard place. He wanted to omit a lot of things while he is in charge. Now if he tell the truth he doesn't have the protection of the church. And if he lies, the church can contradict him at all cost, and put him in serious legal trouble even if the church has to sacrifice it's reputation. </div>
Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-39553673265823914572012-09-02T01:56:00.000+08:002012-09-02T02:17:25.481+08:00Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org headquarter, Dundas, Australia<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
The following is translated from ptt.cc, the front end to one of the largest BBS in Taiwan, where almost all college students are registered. The victim is well known to the Church of Scientology and her brother made public the incident with real names. The Australian Federal Police, Taiwan Ministry of Foreign Affairs and local hospitals have plenty of records. Australian media is aware. The OP sanitized the names.<br />
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OP:<br />
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This happened to my colleague. One day he disappeared after work. I asked around and heard that he went to work in Australia. This is common so I didn't ask. Until a few days ago he came back and turned up at a company event. I didn't chat with him much because I thought that he completed his task in Australia and resumed his duties.<br />
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This is what he posted on the community page of the company on Facebook, and asked us to tell as many people as possible. Please consider very carefully in joining any religious groups.<br />
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Victim's brother Jake:<br />
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I am beginning my military service. There is something that I want to be honest with you. Also, please help! As a matter of fact, I don't have direct connections to the xx bureau, but I think our bureau has influence in the world.<br />
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I was stunned when xx said that I was gone without saying goodbye. But that is what actually happened. First, I asked for a few days off, and then disappeared. I went to Australia. Doing what? I didn't say clearly and honestly. But in fact, it isn't glorious.<br />
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This is what happened. My sister Alisa joined a religion — Scientology. She went to Australia using religious reasons. Three months later, my sister called home. She told us that she was imprisoned, beaten and abused in a Scientology base. She needed us there to rescue her. Unbelievable! We first thought it was one of the fake kidnapping schemes that cheats ransom money out of us. But it was no doubt my sister. She was sent to a hospital because of serious injuries. The Australian medical system isolated her from Scientologists, so she had the chance to call home for help.<br />
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First, we asked for help from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Taiwan. The Ministry staff pointed out that on average, an incident occurs every three months when parents come looking for their children. These children all went to Scientology in Australia, and mostly disappeared.<br />
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<span class="" id="result_box" lang="en"><span class="">Later,</span> <span class="hps">I</span> came across <span class="hps">anti</span><span class="atn">-</span>Scientology <span class="hps">groups. </span><span class="">Nearly all of them</span> <span class="hps">ex-followers escaped</span> <span class="hps">from</span> <span class="hps">Scientology</span><span class="">. </span><span class="">With</span> <span class="hps">their</span> <span class="hps">help</span>, <span class="hps">I went to the</span> <span class="hps">unfamiliar</span> <span class="hps">Australia</span> <span class="hps">with</span> connections. <span class="">But</span> <span class="hps">my</span> <span class="hps">sister</span> <span class="hps">went</span><span class="hps"> to</span> <span class="hps">a</span> <span class="hps">psychiatric</span> <span class="hps">hospital</span>. <span class="">Although in</span> <span class="hps">my opinion</span>, <span class="hps">apart from</span><span class="hps"></span><span class="hps"></span> <span class="hps">the</span> <span class="hps">physical</span> <span class="hps">wounds</span>, she has no mental problems<span class="hps"></span>. <span class="">Australia</span><span class="">'s</span> mental <span class="hps">health care system</span> <span class="hps">is</span> <span class="hps">very strict</span>, <span class="hps">not</span> <span class="hps">easily allowing</span> <span class="hps">patients to be discharged</span>. My sister stayed in <span class="hps">the hospital under observation</span> <span class="hps">for nearly two months</span>. So <span class="hps">I checked into</span> <span class="hps">the</span> <span class="hps">home</span> <span class="hps">of</span> an ex-<span class="hps">Scientologist</span><span class="hps"></span>, <span class="hps">commuting to visit</span> <span class="hps">my sister almost</span> <span class="hps">every day</span><span class="hps"></span>. I also <span class="hps">listened to</span> <span class="hps">an ex-Scientologist,</span> <span class="hps">once</span> <span class="hps">trapped</span> <span class="hps">inside for </span><span class="hps">more</span> <span class="hps">than</span> <span class="hps">10</span> <span class="hps">years,</span> for <span class="hps">a</span> <span class="hps">lot</span> <span class="hps">of</span> <span class="hps">inhumane treatments</span> inside. During the <span class="hps">hospital stay the Australian Federal Police</span> came to take<span class="hps"> note</span>. <span class="hps">I'm back now after two months.</span></span><br />
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<span class="" id="result_box" lang="en"><span class="">It seemed very exaggerated</span><span class="">,</span> <span class="hps">very serious</span>, <span class="hps">but this is real</span>, <span class="hps">all</span> <span class="hps">true</span>. <span class="">What I ask</span> <span class="hps">everyone</span> <span class="hps">to help</span> <span class="hps">is to</span> <span class="hps">talk</span> about <span class="hps">it. </span>Let <span class="hps">everyone</span> <span class="hps">know</span> <span class="hps atn">that "</span><span class="">Scientology</span>" <span class="hps">is</span> <span class="hps">engaged in</span> <span class="hps">such</span> <span class="hps">things</span>, because <span class="">Scientology is here</span> <span class="hps">in</span> <span class="hps">Taiwan</span>. <span class="hps">And</span> <span class="hps">that is</span> <span class="hps">what I introduced to others </span><span class="hps">like</span> <span class="hps">a</span> <span class="hps">salesman</span>. A <span class="hps">friend</span> <span class="hps">introduced</span> <span class="hps">me</span>, <span class="hps">and</span> I <span class="hps">introduced Scientology to</span> <span class="hps">my</span> <span class="hps">sister</span>. M<span class="hps">y</span> <span class="hps">sister</span> <span class="hps">went to the</span> <span class="hps">headquarter in Dundas</span>, <span class="hps">where she was abused. </span>Now I know how terrible <span class="hps">Scientology</span> is. In <span class="hps">fact</span>, <span class="hps">I believe</span> <span class="hps">somebody know</span> <span class="hps">about the </span><span class="hps"></span><span class="hps">Scientology</span> <span class="hps">scandals</span> in the bureau, bro' xx and lil' x <span class="hps"></span> <span class="hps">... </span>But <span class="hps">no one</span> <span class="hps">warned</span> <span class="hps">me</span>! <span class="hps">Why?</span> Could be because <span class="hps">I was in the midst of pleasure</span><span class="hps"></span><span class="hps"></span><span class="hps"></span><span class="">!</span></span><br />
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<span class="" id="result_box" lang="en"><span class="">Lil' x, please take the trouble to send my message to the priest during worship. Ask him to tell the faithful that they must be especially careful of Scientology, because the surface looks quite gorgeous and beautiful, but in the name of religion, to do good, to help, to learn knowledge, it's actually a money-making fraud, and even engages in human trafficking.</span></span><br />
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<span class="" id="result_box" lang="en"><span class="">Strictly speaking this is a private matter, but thank you for help anyway. After my military service I will be back to the bureau, but I may be in Australia for a period of time to sue the Church of Scientology.</span></span><br />
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-62090958121710231402012-08-10T01:54:00.001+08:002012-08-10T01:54:21.551+08:00Characteristics of a cult - turning cheese into diamond<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
After 4 years of studying in the "university of cults", I realized that some cult characteristics aren't listed in some checklists.<br />
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One characteristics is the systematic, selective peeling off of one's rational reasoning. (The other is polarization.)<br />
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As far as checklists go, the symptoms (absolute obedience) rather than the cause (destroy reasoning) are more suitable.<br />
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The destruction of reasoning has been well discussed. Some refers to it as thought stopping. However, thought stopping is defined in some controversial therapy as "tell yourself to stop thinking about that" whenever "that" thought occurs. I prefer to use reasoning to describe a more complex process than "thinking about something".<br />
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I rather not use the word logic as it had become a dirty for cult members. They are criticized as being illogical so often that they might think that their "reasoning" is another branch alternative to "logic".<br />
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So, for outsiders who have read a few of Scientology's criticisms, they may think that, "How do you believer that when there are so many holes in it?". But for believers, Scientology is a bullet proof, perfect diamond. <br />
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How does LRH turn cheese into diamonds? Brain wash, mind control come to mind. But how?<br />
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Peeling off your reasoning seems to be a good description. It can be in huge chunks as in a Dianetics intensive course. Or more likely, it's gradual.<br />
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People who accept Dianetics isn't picky about the difference of science and pseudo-science in the first place. Dianetics say 2% of the population are anti-society suppressive persons, who can be get rid of silently without sorrow. Either you accept it without thinking about it, or you think it's reasonable. But if you accept this, you are accepting to be much more extreme than the Nazis. When you progress up the bridge, this fact will be reinforced.<br />
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For example in the free Volunteer Minister course, the third-party rule is introduced. Whenever there is an argument, there must be a third-party behind it who benefits from the conflict. It may or may not be true but it's 100% in Scientology. You may think it's reasonable to say that, may be 30% of the time is true. But once you accepted it, sooner or later it will be 100%. Whenever people criticize Scientology, your will call them SP's (that they can be destroyed with sorrow) and the psychs must have sent them.<br />
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Each piece of programming isn't just sugar coated, but comes with a huge pot of honey. You accept auditing and the e-meter because the make you feel better. But the fact is, the beginner’s auditing is similar to some common therapy techniques. You can get it elsewhere, it's not original, and the more effective the better. It's a huge carrier to bring some destructive payloads into your reasoning process, no matter how tiny the destructive forces are.<br />
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So when discussing whether LRH's tech is effective, effectiveness is irrelevant. Firstly, LRH is seldom the source who invented the effective part. And if it's not at all effective, nobody will be a Scientologist. You have to figure out the tiny piece of destructive programming in each area of tech. It's a cheese to diamond tech, but only if you fall for it.<br />
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The peeling off is systematic - overwhelming and relentless. It's is also selective so a lawyer can still be a lawyer, an engineer can still be an engineer.</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-5989732298110974942012-07-28T13:26:00.001+08:002012-07-28T23:59:07.287+08:00The history of the fall of the church of Scientology<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
This is the new title for both Chinese and English versions of the blog. Now the Chinese title is nice and short, with a little bit of originality.<br />
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I have reasons to believe that the old title prevents some Scientologists and ex-church members to click on it in search engine results.<br />
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The old Chinese title is basically the nouns Scientology, Dianetics and LRH in one sentence, plus two negative adjectives each like fraud, cult, greedy. Later it was shortened to one negative adjective to appear less mental. The purpose was to stand out from the cult's many other websites, and to tell Scientologists that they can't do anything about the title.<br />
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This is not a postulate, but really history. To me the CoS has fallen since 2008, since the Tom Cruise video incident. That was the first time I knew what Scientology really is. I asked myself how can the cult win when it takes only a few minutes at most to upload one video with no traces? That was even before Gawker hosted the video on their website. I even posted other copyrighted materials on videos as a little experiment. It took the RTC three months to take one down!<br />
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Since then, the church has been forced to use full guerrilla tactics. There are no spokesperson to confront the media. Scientologists were given instructions in no uncertain terms not to defend in their own way their religion on the Internet. Curtains will be drawn when the first protestors arrive at an Org. Names and places are withheld in press releases in Taiwan, so nobody knows where or who to send complains to.<br />
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To be a Christian, you normally belong to a church, even if only your birth was celebrated there, and your funeral will be held there. An ex-church member means that you are no longer a Christian - same as an ex-Christian. But Scientologists has no such luck. An ex-church member merely means that he/she has no other church to join, though he/she may still believes in Scientology.<br />
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One reason that some Scientologists (the Writer) don't leave the criminal and greedy church is because they are afraid that the whole Bridge will be lost, along with all Hubbard tech. To me Hubbard is evil and crazy, but I can reassure Scientologists that the Bridge will still be there.<br />
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Take Karen de la Carriere for example. She is the highest level of auditors trained by LRH himself. She is the ex-wife of the current President of Scientology International, Heber Jentzsch. She alone can take you up the Bridge many times over. There are much more people like her outside of the church than inside. She left the church in 2010, long after LRH dropped his body. Therefore she cannot be a squirrel and sell impure LRH tech. She is still a firm believer of Scientology even though she accused the church of causing the death of her son.<br />
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Karen is also a friend of OT8 Helen Chen, and appeared as guest on Helen Chen Academy’s graduation celebration in Los Angeles.<br />
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An 18 year old 2nd generation Scientologist in Taiwan came out to defend her religion. She has been happy in Scientology and she said 18 years can't be wrong. Wrong. Many had been in for twice that, and Karen was trained by LRH himself. If the church is gone, her group will still be there for some time.<br />
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Below is the memorial for Alexander Jentzsch, Karen's son. You can see all the big guns there, many can take you far up the Bridge. Without the church, you can still have your Scientology silent birth, weddings, and funeral. And if you drop your body some day, you may still go to the other galaxies.<br />
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The movie (sorry to disappoint you) gave me inspirations about "what is a cult?".<br />
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If for nothing else, kids will watch and may understand what is a cult with parental guidance. There is the possibility that children raised in a cult may understand that the outside world is different.<br />
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A cult enslaves people, the weak. It's not on a check list of cult features that I re-posted, hence this discussion.<br />
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You are the elite, or promised a path to be an elite, if you join. It's OK to rule the weak, enslave them or extort huge amounts of money from them. In order to move up the path of the elite, or keep yourself there, you will do a lot of things otherwise you will not do.<br />
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You are a slave master that money can't buy. You regard that you are the saviour of mankind while Bill Gate is far from it. It's OK not to talk to your family because they don't agree with you and they are weak.<br />
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The current leadership structure of a cult is a pyramid scheme to enrich people at the top - a cult is about money and power, exchangeable. <br />
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One difference between a religion and a cult is the concept of zero return, or that a cult rob Peter to pay Paul. An established "religion" do not need to do that.<br />
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A cult sells you something addictive, for example, auditing.<br />
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Religion and cult evolve, so the concept of evolution make sense. Evolution goes in all directions and cults are at the dead ends if they can't adapt. Cults will have a lot of anti-society features, such as Fair Game and Keep Scientology Working. Society will kill them like cancer.<br />
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Evolution gave us a large brain, astronomy and condoms. You can't keep on fighting these things, for one Galileo that falls, ten will be born in his place.</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-29532553730991215102012-07-01T07:37:00.000+08:002012-07-01T13:24:45.168+08:00Thursday 2 pm<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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After the first Taiwanese OT's public denunciation of the church, this is what happened to a Scientology critic's blog in Chinese. And these are not people looking for Tom Cruise divorce news.<br />
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This is evidence that Taiwanese Scientologists are starting to observe for themselves, ignoring the church's ban on etheta information on the net. Congratulations and well done to those who triggered it all.<br />
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On 2nd thought, after the public seen the headlines of Tom and Scientology, they search for Scientology.<br />
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Why Thursday 2 pm? Anybody who has been a Scientology staff will still shiver when they hear this moment every week, when they have to report their statistics. For all current staff, inverting this chart will be your stat comes next Thursday.<br />
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Is today Thursday? Absolutely not. I am experimenting a column like Tony's to catch up with so many things. I am showing staff that I can do what I like, when I like it.<br />
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Our own Freedom Medal winner came out to defend the church. His target audience are loyal Scientologists but his article got posted in public. This is a bad sign as the church's usual handling is not to response but to smear critics on Freedom Magazine. He didn't smear the critics but blame bad sheep among staff. If he were in Sea Org he would have been put into the RPF. Now he will need a lot of sec checks to progress up the bridge. But I doubt if that's what he really wants. He became OT3 only in recent years.<br />
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Our own celebrity is not afraid to speak her mind as usual. She supports the new critics, but wants to stay in the church. Maybe that's possible, but not before a lot of expensive sec checks.</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-16120552717360519322012-06-21T13:23:00.000+08:002012-06-21T13:23:06.795+08:00Declaration of OT5 Verjanso Yang and wife leaving church of Scientology<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
Vejanso Yang is <br />
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I am a New OTV, a GAT Class V Auditor and Purif C/S and PTS Specialist. Whilst a public of the AOSH ANZO I assisted this organization by doing A-J’s on more than 200 people, more than 50 peoples’ Objective Correction Lists as well as auditing Sea Org Members up the Bridge. </blockquote>
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I am trained to handle all kinds of PTSness except Type III and I deliver people all the way from the Purif to Clear. In fact, I am the first Taiwanese auditor to this day who can deliver from the Purif all the way to Clear. I am the first Taiwanese Senior Minister that was ever made. I was the first Taiwanese who co-audited to Clear. I was the first person to go to China and make the first Clear in China. <br />
<br /> And now I am the first highly trained Class V Taiwanese Auditor to publically depart.</blockquote>
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<a href="http://blog.verjanso.com/830">An Open Letter to All the Taiwanese Scientologists</a></div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-7116370018407428282012-05-17T09:00:00.000+08:002012-05-17T09:00:03.484+08:00Wanted Thetans<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<b>Crimes:</b><br />
Human species trafficking, illegal imprisonment, kidnapping, fraud, violation of visa and labour laws, negligence (breach of duty and factual causation).<br />
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<b>Jurisdiction: </b><br />
Any countries on the planet with extradition treaties with the Galactic Confederation. <br />
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<b>Lead Agencies:</b><br />
Because of the ease of blending in with the local species, the following organisations will be automatically recognised by the Confederation as the lead agencies when they are involved —— Interpol, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Australian Federal Police, Scotland Yard, and Politsiya.<br />
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<b>Effective Period:</b><br />
One billion years and one day.<br />
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<b>Legal:</b><br />
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Valeska Paris testified on national TV broadcast that David Miscavige, Chairman of the Board, Church of Scientology Religious Technology Centre, is personally responsible for taking her on-board the Freewinds. She was held against her will for 12 years. <span class="st"> </span><br />
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<span class="st">Don Jason's </span>publicly stated that he escaped from the Freewinds by sliding down the anchor chain. To get to the airport, he had to fight off Sea Org members who attempted to kidnap him.<br />
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Shane Kelsey's mother put him in the Sea Org at Dundas Australia, when he was 6. He escaped at 21 with the help of his father on the outside.<br />
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An anonymous source, an ex-Sea Org member from Taiwan, stated in public that he knows Shane because Shane worked in the kitchen for long hours.<br />
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A second anonymous source, an ex-Sea Org member from Taiwan, stated in public that he asked his friend in Taiwan to come over and help him escape from Dundas. He returned to Taiwan but still believes in Scientology.<br />
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The Galactic Confederation therefore believes that crimes were committed against the human species, and that all the Sea Org officials and recruiters in Taiwan are directly implicated. Those who ignored, or failed to check on, the well being of their recruits are at least guilty of multiple negligence.<br />
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The Republic of China, Taiwan, has no extradition treaty with the Confederation, but it has Mutual Legal Assistance Agreements with many countries on the planet.<br />
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<b>Also:</b><br />
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All your thetans are belong to us —— David Miscavige, 李美足,Tina Chen, 黃玲月,林讚廷。</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-85795660921877508242012-05-17T00:25:00.001+08:002012-05-17T00:25:34.391+08:00Lisa Marie Presley — So Long<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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Anybody who wants to join the Sea Org in Taiwan should contact:<br />
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黃玲月 07-215-1025<br />
Tina 陳 0917-641195<br />
林讚廷 0910-034025<br />
Fax 07-215-7363<br />
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Address:<br />
山達基教會海洋機構 / 新紀元出版有限公司<br />
高雄市前金區七賢二路231號1樓<br />
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The work conditions and success story in the poster are bull shits. Typically the "church" uses initials for people who don't exist. <br />
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95% of Sea Org staff are paid US$50 per week for their entire life, if there is enough money. Unless you are an auditor or training to be one, you are doing work for the Sea Org that even illegal immigrants would not do for the less than minimum wage. Worse, ex-Sea Org members compare the hard work and long hours with the gulags in USSR.<br />
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If you want to leave, they will say it's not allowed. This is against the law of any land. The billion year contract is not effective in any country. You don't owe them money because you leave. Any contract such as free loader debts are dubious in legality and they can't do much about you after the fact.<br />
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There was an academic research paper in Taiwan, comparing the Sea Org with other religious orders. The number of Scientologists recommending fellow believers to join the Sea Org is the lowest among other religions. But when you ask Scientologists and staff members about their opinion of the Sea Org, at best they will remain silence if they know the reality. <br />
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The following videos show the real life in the Sea Org. <br />
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Ramana was illegally imprisoned in the Freewinds for 8 years.</div>
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You are who you associate with. To some degree you have to admit it's true.<br />
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I would have thought I'm an atheist, but I'm too lazy for that. I have no intention to prove that God or something like that don't exist. Agnostic suits me best. I wouldn't believe something that cannot be proven, but you are welcomed to it.<br />
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An ancient Chinese Wiseman (Lao Zi 老子?) said, "You life is limited. To chase after the boundless would be dangerous". If you want to believe in a religion, you might just end up in Scientology and other destructive cults.<br />
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It's true that atheists crash with all people with religions to some extent. But for the agnostic view, those with different religions contradict each other. For example, Christian, Buddhism and Hindu believe in very different things. Only one of them can be right? And since you can't prove who is right one way or the other, I have better things to do.<br />
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The problem with Scientologists is that they cannot defend their own religion without risking to see the ethic officer for saying or looking up the wrong things. They can only tell you to read a book, even in press releases.<br />
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"Dianetics: the modern science of mental health" This is not science, end of story for me, and the same for anybody who knows science from science friction. How do you defend that? There is no IF's, BUT's. It's not true or false, acceptable or unacceptable, right or wrong. There is no intention to be a science as we know it. </div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-73545634478509126412012-04-28T13:05:00.003+08:002012-04-28T13:05:44.440+08:00Narconon Trois-Rivières: Disturbing testimony from former employees<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
<a href="https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/narconon-trois-rivieres-is-closed.101820/page-14#post-2098431">Translation of a French article by mnql1</a> posted on April 18, 2012 on the website of the Trois-Rivières daily newspaper <i>Le Nouvelliste</i>:<br />
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<b>Narconon Trois-Rivières: Disturbing testimony from former employees</b><br />
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by Paule Vermot Desroches<br />
April 18, 2012<br />
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<b>Photo caption:</b> From left to right: Émilie Marin, Sylvain Bérard, Julie Ann Pagé, Odette Poulin,<br />
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<b>(Trois-Rivières) Things weren't sailing very smoothly inside Narconon
during the past few months. This, at least, is what emerges from the
testimony of Narconon employees who, after their sudden dismissal, felt
the need to speak out in public about the situation to <i>Le Nouvelliste.</i></b><br />
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<i>First and foremost, the employees wished to defend the program
offered by Narconon as an effective program that has time and again
produced excellent results, but they said that the center's
administration left much to be desired and sometimes even endangered the
safety of certain residents and employees.</i><br />
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<i>Sylvain Bérard, the Ethics Officer, said that Narconon had already
been experiencing financial problems for some time, to such an extent
that, in recent months, the organization had even been admitting clients
with more serious problems of a psychiatric nature.</i><br />
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<i>"Some of these cases weren't admissible to the program because it
requires cutting off their medication. But the administration chose to
keep them anyway. There were several instances of attempted suicide
during the past few months. By law, immediate medical assistance should
have been provided, but management decided to keep these persons without
calling for an ambulance," says the former employee.</i><br />
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<i>His colleague, Julie Ann Pagé remembers a female resident who, less
than ten days earlier, made at least two suicide attempts in one day,
but she was not referred to a hospital. Ms. Pagé says that incidents
like this were blamed on the employees for supposedly "not delivering
enough."</i><br />
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<i>"We believe in what we are doing, and we do it for the sake of our
residents, for the families, because we believe that everyone can be
rehabilitated. But we were treated like assholes, as less than nothing,"
says Julie Ann Pagé, who was responsible for the withdrawal phase at
Narconon.</i><br />
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<i>All of the employees gathered around the table said they had received
no pay for at least six weeks, and neither had they received the 4% of
salary due to them at the termination of employment. Yesterday morning,
they went to the labour standards commission office to inquire about
their possible recourse.</i><br />
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<i>"There were several times we didn't get paid on time. But they
promised us all sorts of things. It was lie after lie. We weren't
supposed to talk about it with each other, otherwise we risked getting
fired," remembers Sylvie Houde.</i><br />
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<i>Narconon's finances were so badly managed that Julie Ann Pagé and
another co-worker were forced to get rid of the center's trash because
Narconon couldn't afford to have its garbage bins emptied. Sylvain
Bérard also recalls that, in 2009, clients were compelled to eat ground
beef for a whole month, even though the clients could spend between
$20,000 and $30,000 for their stay.</i><br />
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<i>"We had no right to have a personal opinion. The only thing that
mattered was their teaching of Scientology. Don't do to others what you
wouldn't want them to do to you. This was one of their internal rules,
but they themselves don't apply it. They have no respect for us or for
the residents," says Sylvie Houde.</i><br />
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<i><b>"We're playing with people's lives"</b></i><br />
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<i>While the Narconon employees were at <i>Le Nouvelliste</i>, one of
their cell phones rang. On the line was a woman from the Maritimes who
was worried because she hadn't heard from her brother who was in therapy
in Trois-Rivières. The man she was referring to had been relocated to
the Narconon center in Calgary. His family members had not been notified
and no one at Narconon Trois-Rivières was answering the phone to
reassure them.</i><br />
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<i>Discouragement was perceptible around the table. "There's no better
example to show the kind of management that goes on there. Right now,
they're taking away all of the center's records, confidential files they
don't want anyone to see because of the crooked way they manage," says
Odette Poulin.</i><br />
<br />
<i>Odette Poulin points out that every employee had to sign a contract
with Narconon that prohibits them from speaking to the media. "We
weren't supposed to reveal anything to the press. We're speaking today
anyway for the sake of the parents and the students, but also for the
employees. We were treated as less than nothing," says Julie Ann Pagé.
"We didn't even get a thank you or a letter of reference," laments
Odette Poulin.</i><br />
<br />
<i>Émilie Marin, who resigned from Narconon last March 30, emphasizes
however that their criticism of the administration only concerns
Narconon Trois-Rivières and does not necessarily apply to the other
centers around the world.</i><br />
<br />
<i>Sylvain Girard, for his part, suspects that the Narconon
Trois-Rivières administration is now turning to Toronto to open a new
center. "I think this is the biggest danger, because they'll open
somewhere else in Canada. The whole country needs to be aware of what's
happening. As far as the program is concerned, I firmly believe in it. I
believe that a person should not be cured of an addiction by taking
other drugs. The Narconon program is a logical program. But it was time
for the government to close down Narconon Trois-Rivières because
psychiatric cases are out of line with our capabilities. The situation
had become dangerous," said Mr. Bérard. "We're playing with people's
lives," adds Julie Ann Pagé.</i><br />
<br />
<i><i>Le Nouvelliste</i> tried again to contact the administration of
Narconon Trois-Rivières by telephone and by email to offer an
opportunity to respond, but without success.</i></blockquote>
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<a href="https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/narconon-trois-rivieres-is-closed.101820/page-10#post-2097438">Translation by mnql1</a> of a French article posted on April 17, 2012 on the website of radio station 98.5 FM in Montreal:<br />
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.985fm.ca/regional/nouvelles/des-pratiques-risquees-chez-narconon-selon-l-agenc-138523.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">Des pratiques risquées chez Narconon selon l'Agence régionale</span></a><br />
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<b>Narconon practices risky, according to regional Health Agency</b><br />
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by Jocelyn Ouellet<br />
April 17, 2012<br />
CKOI 106,9 Mauricie <br />
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The Mauricie and Central-Quebec Health and Social Services Agency gave
details on Tuesday about the reasons that led it to deny certification
to the Narconon Trois-Rivières detoxification center.<br />
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The center was ordered to cease its activities and to relocate the
twenty-four residents who were there. Seventeen of them were transferred
to Narconon centers in the United States. The organization has ten days
to send its comments to the Agency, which will then issue a final
decision. The center will then have sixty days to contest the decision
before the Quebec administrative court.<br />
<br />
Of the fifty-five criteria required for certification, the Quebec
Accreditation Council identified forty-six deficiencies, twenty-six of
them considered high-risk. One of the procedures that represents a
health risk is the sauna sweating sessions combined with massive doses
of vitamins.<br />
<br />
Narconon's methods are based on the teachings of the Church of
Scientology, which, according to the Agency, perceives drug addiction as
moral depravity and associates it with dishonesty.<br />
<br />
Marc Lacour also confirmed that the regional complaints commissioner has
received a certain number of complaints about Narconon. Clients who
wanted to end their stay prematurely complained that their identity
cards, passports, and money were taken and withheld to make departing
more complicated.</blockquote>
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<a href="https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/narconon-trois-rivieres-is-closed.101820/page-8#post-2097144">Translation by mnql1</a> of a French article posted on April 17, 2012 on the website of the <i>Journal de Montréal</i>:<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2012/04/16/fermeture-annoncee-pour-narconon" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;"> Fermeture annoncée pour Narconon</span></a><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"> </span>Quebec is expected to close the detoxification center linked to the controversial Church of Scientology<br />
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<b>The Health and Social Services Agency for the Mauricie region met
yesterday with the directors of Narconon, a drug detoxification center
linked to the controversial Church of Scientology. According to our
sources, Quebec is expected to put an end to Narconon's activities.</b><br />
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By Émilie Dubreuil<br />
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Spending seven to eight hours a day in a sauna for 21 days, shouting at
an ashtray, ingesting massive vitamin doses - this, among other things,
is the treatment that Narconon Trois-Rivières offers drug addicts.<br />
<br />
This peculiar detoxification method is based on the writings of the founder of the Church of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard.<br />
<br />
A typical two-to-three-month stay at Narconon Trois-Rivières costs $23,000.<br />
<br />
Many families of drug addicts do not hesitate to invest this amount to help their loved ones deal with their addiction.<br />
<br />
Moreover, Narconon Trois-Rivières claims that its success rate is 80%, which is far above average.<br />
<br />
<b>Multiple complaints</b><br />
<br />
The center's clientele comes mainly from the United States and English Canada.<br />
<br />
The latter is the case for David Edgar Love, who arrived at Narconon
Trois-Rivières addicted to cocaine and medications. He emerged one year
later weaned off drugs, but completely traumatized.<br />
<br />
Since then, with the support of the Anonymous group that campaigns
worldwide against the activities of the Church of Scientology, Love has
filed multiple formal complaints with the College of Physicians, the
Human Rights Commission and the Canada Revenue Agency.<br />
<br />
David Love has also organized various protests to draw media attention to Narconon's questionable methods.<br />
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<b>Certification</b><br />
<br />
At the same time these efforts were unfolding, the regional Health and
Social Services Agency conducted an investigation and met with former
dissatisfied patients.<br />
<br />
This investigation was part of a certification process for detoxification centers located in the province of Quebec.<br />
<br />
This initiative began in Quebec in 2007. It was learned that Narconon
employees were offering courses in certain Quebec schools, teaching
basic Scientology principles to young students.<br />
<br />
The Health and Social Services Agency convened the media this morning to
report on this case, but news of the closure had already reached David
Love and he is very pleased about it.<br />
<br />
"I feel I did my duty," he said.</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-25087588396541072332012-04-28T12:52:00.005+08:002012-04-28T12:52:58.776+08:00Narconon: Health Agency feared for the safety of the residents<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
April 17, 2012 <a href="https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/narconon-trois-rivieres-is-closed.101820/page-9#post-2097269">translated by mnql1</a><br />
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The Narconon detoxification center fails to satisfy 42 of the 55
criteria needed to obtain certification from the Quebec Department of
Health, 26 of which are deemed high risk factors. This is the assessment
presented this morning at a press conference by the Health and Social
Services Agency for the Mauricie-Central Quebec region.<br />
<br />
The Health Agency brought up several questionable procedures used by
Narconon, for example its sudation method combined with massive doses of
medications, as well as the absence of medical supervision. Residents
spend five or six hours a day in a sauna during twenty-five days. These
methods are not recognized by the Quebec Department of Health.<br />
<br />
Moreover, some residents have said they were prevented from leaving the center.<br />
<br />
Narconon has ten days to send its comments to the Health Agency.
Following this, Narconon will have sixty days to contest the decision
before the courts. As was previously reported, the Narconon
Trois-Rivières detoxification center was forced to shut down because the
Quebec Department of Health refused to grant it certification.<br />
<br />
More details to come.<br />
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Published in Trois-Rivières daily newspaper <i>Le Nouvelliste</i>:<br />
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-nouvelliste/actualites/201204/17/01-4516203-narconon-lagence-de-sante-craignait-pour-la-securite-des-residents.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">Narconon: l'Agence de santé craignait pour la sécurité des résidents</span></a></div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-11189641803255725092012-04-28T08:30:00.000+08:002012-04-28T08:30:00.558+08:00Signs of winning<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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In today's Google Taiwan search results, anti-church of Scientology websites occupies half of the 10 entries on front page. The top entry has always been the Wikipedia page of Scientology. It is supposed to be neutral but in fact the data in it are overwhelming unfavourable to CoS, making the overall results 6 to 4 against.<br />
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More importantly, it is not just the number of websites, we are winning in different fronts - Wikipedia, website, Global and local blog platforms, Youtube, Facebook.<br />
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Taiwan is one of the 5 countries in the world that Google isn't the top search engine. But here Google handles about half of the searches and growing.</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-80565448323816396972012-04-23T00:39:00.002+08:002012-04-23T00:39:47.931+08:00Another died in Narconon Arrowhead<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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On April 11, 2012, Hillary Holten, 21, of Carrolton Texas, was found dead at about 4 a.m. in her room at Narconon Arrowhead. She had been staying at the facility for less than two days when she was found face down on her bed.<br /> <br /> Less than six months earlier, in October, the body of Gabriel Graves, 32, of Kingfisher, was also found in his bed at the facility, according to a police report. He had been at Narconon for months.<br /> <br />
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<a class="url entry-title" href="http://mcalesternews.com/local/x1865825013/Naconon-deaths-under-investigation" rel="bookmark">Narconon deaths under investigation</a></h3>
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The president of Youth for Human Rights International Mary Shutterworth visited the President of Taiwan. It was very upstat at first sight but this is right after the presidential election. It's pay back time. What else did the President do? Force eviction of homes for redevelopment. Big increase in gas and electricity. And greeted Mary Shutterworth. Scientology is that unpopular. And because of the visit, I commented that the church of Scientology is a convicted international criminal organisation, at the <a href="http://www.president.gov.tw/Default.aspx?tabid=221&lctl=detail&itemid=18123&rmid=1108&rid=18123&ctid=141&pctid=121">Presidential Office online</a>. The board is moderated and my comment got through. It's not a big deal but Scientologists can't say "It's not true", "I sue you".<br />
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Youth for Human Rights International Taiwan has one full time employee 林佩臻. The only activity is for her to go to schools and lecture about human rights. Since she does not do press releases, we have not filed complains recently.<br />
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They used to have a Human Rights carnival on Human Rights day every year. It was busted some two years ago. Then they invited "celebrities" instead to tour universities. First it was once a year, then every six months and now just three months. It was as if they want to stop the downward spiral but failed miserably.<br />
<br />
All these celebrities are offspring of big donors and dedicated OT's. There were also some without a single talent who came along. They don't come any more because they can't do anything and looked like idiots. <br />
<br />
As I predicted, Nikki Lanik can't continue to fake being a formula one driver when nobody hire him to drive any race any more. Instead, came the bizarre "Hollywood photographer" Felix Kunze, who is actually based in London, and his only photo shoot session with a movie star is, guess who, Juliette Lewis. I still want to vomit thinking about her recently leaked sex pictures. He did a session with Catherine Bell recently, before he set off for Taiwan. But Bell isn't a Hollywood star, all she did was TV shows and TV movies.<br />
<br />
As for Dustin McGahee, he claims to be a singer and he can sing, although the biggest run of his album is 300 CD's shipped to Taiwan for sale. I would think a lot are still in the office drawers. There's nothing to fake but there's not enough pulling power either. So this time they find another singer to make up a party of three celebrities. But the trouble is that this singer, 郭育麟, is a wedding singer. That doesn't stop them from signing autographs and sell them as if they are Hollywood and Nashville stars. But sooner or later people will realise that Dustin McGahee is not even as good as a wedding singer, and the Hollywood photographer has nothing to do with Hollywood, except for Juliette Lewis that he would rather has nothing to do with.<br />
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This year they managed to tour three universities. Only a few people turned up in one of them, just enough for them to take group pictures. May be because they brought a wedding singer in the other one, so the crowd was bigger.<br />
<br />
The repeat offender is Kun Shan University. When I made a comment on a Facebook page of this university about the event, my link to the Presidential Office was deleted. That gave me an option to complain to the highest level.<br />
<br />
Also, people are not stupid. Someone were bound to ask, "Human rights ambassadors, can you help with the force eviction for redevelopment?" The answer should have been, "We are worse than KONY 2012. We take your money, travel all over, make epic videos, and raise awareness. But we absolutely don't spend any money on others."<br />
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With nothing much to do, these celebrities hijacked a concert. The location is like Avalon in Catalina Islands, Land's End in Cornwall. There are pictures of a lot of audiences. There are videos of our celebrity singing on his own. The only video with the singer singing in front of some audiences, was probably filmed when they gave him the stage after the concert finished, and there were still some people left who didn't go home yet.</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-73360410118070572432012-04-15T09:38:00.000+08:002012-04-16T07:11:16.096+08:00The failure behind Scientology anti-drug events<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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The church of Scientology cannot enter schools to promote Narcanon any more, not even in the Clearwater of Taiwan, 高雄 (Gao Xiong). You would think that going out in the streets to deliver leaflets is easy. But it's not as easy as you think.<br />
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About 3 days before the event, they sent out an invitation for volunteers to participate in an anti-drug event. The volunteering organisation is legit, Gao Xiong Youth Volunteer Centre ( 高雄市青年志工中心), federally funded. Managing the centre is a murky Huo Cun Culture and Education Foundation(和春文教基金會). The administrator of the Facebook page of the Centre is Lin Ying Ming(林英明). In the invitation, no sponsor or organisation is mentioned, which is an exception other than the norm.<br />
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12 volunteers from various schools attended the event. I asked if the Church is the sponsor and posted that the Church is an international criminal organisation. The comments got deleted. This is not the first time. But the issue is that I posted the link to the comment I left at <a href="http://www.president.gov.tw/Default.aspx?tabid=221&lctl=detail&itemid=18123&rmid=1108&rid=18123&ctid=141&pctid=121">Office the President website</a>, that the Church is a convicted international criminal organisation. The feedbacks there are moderated. So they deleted my comments good enough for the Office of the President, but not good enough for them, while they are a non-profit funded by the government.<br />
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Lin Ying Ming should know better because he was a graduate of the School of Political Warfare (政治作戰學校).<br />
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They used 12 clueless students to promote their agenda and then published a standard press release saying how great the Church of Scientology is, having solutions to the drug problem.<br />
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Perhaps they listened to my advice, using a reputable newspaper for press releases, stating that it is a press release and that the source is the Church of Scientology.<br />
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That makes you wonder, how many Scientologists are left at the district of the future Ideal Org of Taiwan? Are they too ashamed to come out for charity? The scn controversial anti-drug campaign is that much close to annihilation.<br />
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The list of volunteers accepted for the event, a total of 12:<br />
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<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">和春技術學院-○曉琪、○婉菁、○姿利<br /> 復華中學-○澤萱、○家恩<br /> 中正高工-○永智<br /> 立志中學-○順任、○君增、○瑞庭、○鈺珍、○怡廷、○<wbr></wbr>碩庭<br /><br /> </span></div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-44821661295357413292012-04-14T07:30:00.000+08:002012-04-14T07:30:01.287+08:00OT8 in Taiwan declare independence from "church" of Scientology<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
Phil de Fontenay declared independence from the church of Scientology on Rathbun's blog. For mission holders, there is the SMI to collect money from them for using the tech. For individuals such as Phil, there is IHELP to collect money from them. (THE INTERNATIONAL HUBBARD ECCLESIASTICAL LEAGUE OF PASTORS). Phil had been in Taiwan for over ten years. First they charge his company for delivering SCN service. They they charge his staff as well. Now they charge the students for attending service.<br />
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Phil was declared for not paying up. The church enforced Facebook disconnection on him but he has many supporters. This the first time in Taiwan that Scientologists criticise the church openly and go around spreading their opinions on Facebook.<br />
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There are at least 4 OT8's in Taiwan, half are independent. The other is Helen Chen. If you disregard the quickie bargain OT8's, the only OT8 left in the church is Mr Wu Ying Ceng.<br />
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This is what Phil has to say:<br />
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One day people are so friendly and nice and tell you how happy they are to have you as a friend. The next day this other former "friend" tells them they should not be friends with you any more because of one thing or another. Your friend then, without so much as a whimper blindly follows like a rat follows the piper and un-friends you and shuns you as if you had a contagious disease. I don't mind of course because friends like that are not real friends. But, just like the rat happily follows the piper to its death, so follow the closed-minded, following an insane leader to a dark and forbidding future. It's this last part that drives me. I don't want anyone to suffer this fate. Make a stand and do not support insane leaders. Free communication = Freedom and that's all that matters! Adieu!</blockquote>
<br /></div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-69986275582781932572012-04-14T07:00:00.000+08:002012-04-14T07:00:03.097+08:00Criminon Taiwan finished?<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
April 12, 2012, new Criminon executives announced. Now the head is the ex-mayor who was responsible for the existence of Narconon in his city in the first place. Under him are one local Rotary Club high ranking person, and one local chamber of commerce high ranking person.<br />
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It looks impressive but none of them are Scientologists. There can be many speculations but they will not survive the storms from Canada and USA that are coming. Other than the ex-mayor who can't find any elected office, the others are well connected with public Facebook friends. It doesn't take much to take them down. I doubt if they know what they are getting into.<br />
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Ex-prison officials are gone. Perhaps they know what is coming. I haven't heard about any new Criminon courses held in prisons lately.<br />
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I think the whole operation is relatively expensive and funded entirely by the rich Mr Wu Ying Ceng, OT8. They are running out of Scientologists volunteers and have to hire and train "instructors" to go into prison and teach.<br />
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<br /> 中華民國無犯罪促進會第二屆理事長暨理監事名單<br /> 理事長:葉耀輝<br /> 常務理事:曾鈞蔚、羅源禎<br /> 理事:林珈甄、謝大明、蔡國智、鄭光男、吳銘蒼、陳昭銘<br /> 常務監事:陳玉燕 監事:許耀允、莊景翔</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-77610165866147060722012-04-09T06:57:00.001+08:002012-04-11T03:47:40.396+08:00Lisa Marie Presley —— I'm suppressive<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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Lay down the law, don’t make a sound <br />
Just critical, just going down <br />
I don’t belong, I’ve lost the plot<br />
Not gullible<br />
Can’t be what I’m not<br />
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You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rail <br />
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet<br />
If I don’t get with your system then I'm sure to fail<br />
You ain't seen nothin' yet<br />
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Lay down the truth, don’t make a sound <br />
Just a piece of fruit who’s hit the ground <br />
I don’t respond <br />
I’ve lost the plot <br />
Unethical? <br />
Not what I thought<br />
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You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rail <br />
You ain’t seen nothin' yet<br />
I’m a bit transgressive and suppressive as well<br />
You ain't seen nothin' yet<br />
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Am I disruption to your corruption? <br />
You ain’t seen nothin' yet<br />
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You can think that I’m evil and I'm off the rail <br />
You ain’t seen nothing yet<br />
If I don’t get with your system then I’m sure to fail<br />
You ain’t seen nothin' yet<br />
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No longer elated<br />
Now you’re frustrated <br />
You ain’t seen nothin' yet<br />
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You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rail <br />
You ain’t seen nothing yet<br />
If I don’t get with your system then I’m sure to fail<br />
You ain’t seen nothin' yet<br />
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You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rail <br />
You ain’t seen nothin' yet
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I’m a bit transgressive and suppressive as well <br />
You ain’t seen nothin' yet
</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068616709741201867.post-16728466752585984882012-04-07T09:01:00.001+08:002012-04-07T09:01:34.339+08:00Clear to Eternity - only for $102,850<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
The fast track 6 month package for Clears, going all the way up to OT7. Only available from Flag with deep discount. Is this the final money grabbing scheme? Other than Taiwan, where would they have clears, who decided all of a sudden to go all the way to OT7? There are other fast and cheap courses strict from Student Hat to Class V auditor.<br />
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<a href="http://cristianlandivar.wordpress.com/">A Letter From Cristian Landivar</a></div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650452719857448027noreply@blogger.com0